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		<title>The Plight of a Husband of a Pioneer Woman Follower and Aspiring Photoblogger</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are an up and coming breed, we men who are married to this particular type of woman.  You&#8217;ll recognize us by the following characteristics: We, and especially our children, are constantly being followed by a camera-toting wife &#8220;Scenarios&#8221; are constantly being arranged for photo opportunities.  We wonder if this is really candid living or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are an up and coming breed, we men who are married to this particular type of woman.  You&#8217;ll recognize us by the following characteristics:</p>
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<li>We, and especially our children, are constantly being followed by a camera-toting wife</li>
<li>&#8220;Scenarios&#8221; are constantly being arranged for photo opportunities.  We wonder if this is really candid living or carefully orchestrated dramatization.</li>
<li>We&#8217;re known to say things like &#8220;Can we live the moment instead of trying to capture it?&#8221;</li>
<li>We&#8217;ve got silly, cryptic names, as if people can&#8217;t figure out who we are&#8230;  in my case, it&#8217;s &#8220;Minister Man&#8221;</li>
<li>We&#8217;re caught on camera doing some of the dumbest and revealing things.  It&#8217;s hard to decide if the posts are an invasion of privacy or an insight into our uniqueness.</li>
<li>Our backsides are photo-centric</li>
<li>We&#8217;re constantly ducking out of photo opportunities while our children have not yet learned that defense mechanism &#8211; this leads to lots of pictures of our hands and the sides of our heads</li>
<li>Our meals have to be photographed before they&#8217;re prepared or eaten.  This is true of home-cooking and of restaurant meals.  Don&#8217;t you ladies know that we&#8217;re hungry?!?!</li>
<li>On the upside, all this recipe sharing leads to some pretty yummy meals and snacks</li>
<li>The story of our lives, while likely average or mundane, are highly dramatic sounding when written out in our wives&#8217; photoblogs.  It&#8217;s almost as if we&#8217;re living on a reality TV show.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;d love to hear if there any more of you out there in the blogosphere.  You know who you are!  Let&#8217;s hear from you, and perhaps we can add to this list.</p>
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		<title>What&#039;s New?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Academics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get so many questions about where we&#8217;re at with our journey to seminary, moving, academics, ministry, and so on, that I guess it&#8217;s time to write a bit about what&#8217;s been going on in our lives lately.  I guess I&#8217;ll upload some of the thoughts that occupy my mind lately. First, our house is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get so many questions about where we&#8217;re at with our journey to seminary, moving, academics, ministry, and so on, that I guess it&#8217;s time to write a bit about what&#8217;s been going on in our lives lately.  I guess I&#8217;ll upload some of the thoughts that occupy my mind lately.</p>
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<li>First, our house is now officially for sale.  We&#8217;re completing a few finishing touches on the house and the yard to prepare for an open house next weekend.  This is our greatest area of need for prayer.  We trust that God will finish his work of preparing us for a move to Charlotte.</li>
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<li>I&#8217;ve received a wonderful scholarship from the EPC that will effectively pay for a large chunk of our personal financial responsibility for seminary.  This is such a huge blessing, but we can only utilize it by being a full-time student in Charlotte (which requires a course load of 12 credit hours per semester).</li>
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<li>My church has graciously decided to show more financial support for seminary students in the future, which will also greatly assist in being able to afford seminary and supporting my family in the process.  Praise God for showing us how he plans to support us through this journey!</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>I&#8217;ve signed up for my next seminary class, an online lecture class called Systematic Theology I.  The course requirements include two exams and a response paper.  I&#8217;ll have four months to complete the course, although I plan to work much faster than that this time.</li>
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<li>Ideally, our house will sell in time to move to Charlotte in late July or early August.  If that happens, I&#8217;ll be able to take Greek I for three weeks beginning August 2nd.  If our home hasn&#8217;t sold yet, we&#8217;re going to have to consider some contingency plans.</li>
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<li>If we don&#8217;t move by late August, we&#8217;ll have to consider what to do about my son and his education.  He&#8217;ll be in the first grade this upcoming school year, and our options are public school, private school (where he went for kindergarten), or homeschool (the current #1 contender).</li>
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<li>We&#8217;re on the hunt for churches in Charlotte.  Ideally, we&#8217;ll find a place where we can worship as a family and I can serve as a paid intern.</li>
</ul>
<p>Your prayers would be appreciated for the above topics, and anything more that I ought to be considering.  May the Lord bless you and he&#8217;s blessed us!</p>
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		<title>Wanted: The Power of the Holy Spirit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the past year or so, I&#8217;ve been really seeking a deeper understanding of the Holy Spirit.  Intellectually, I&#8217;m sure I could accurately describe the person of the Holy Spirit from a biblical perspective.  I am also quite aware of the presence of the Holy Spirit in my life.  There can be no other explanation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the past year or so, I&#8217;ve been really seeking a deeper understanding of the Holy Spirit.  Intellectually, I&#8217;m sure I could accurately describe the person of the Holy Spirit from a biblical perspective.  I am also quite aware of the presence of the Holy Spirit in my life.  There can be no other explanation for the transforming work that the Lord has done and continues to do in my life.  I am a changed person because of the presence of the Holy Spirit.  I also know that I cannot possibly understand the true meaning of the scriptures without assistance from the Holy Spirit.  What I&#8217;m looking for, I suppose, is more of an experience of the power of the Holy Spirit.  I want more of a relationship with the person of God that has chosen to dwell within me.</p>
<p>As I embark on this voyage into ministry, I realize that I am going to have to rely solely on the power of the Holy Spirit to do anything effectively.  I am only beginning to understand the gravity of that realization, though.  It means that everything I&#8217;m good at, all of the &#8220;gifts&#8221; that the Lord has given me, they&#8217;re nothing compared to the power that&#8217;s necessary for successful ministry.  Look at the apostles&#8230; they were fumbling fools at the feet of Jesus, and yet when they were filled with the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, they went on to perform &#8220;greater works&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="John 14:12" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=John+14%3A12"></a><a class="bibleref" title="John 14:12" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=John+14%3A12"><cite class="bibleref" title="John 14:12" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283867839', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F43014012&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F43014012&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p43014012.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v43014012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.&lt;/span&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'John 14:12', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=John+14%3A12');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=John+14%3A12" >John 14:12</a></a>).</p>
<p>I want the kind of power that the apostles were given to do ministry.  I can imagine that only by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit will I be able to truly be the hands and feet of Christ on earth.  I&#8217;m aware that I&#8217;ve jumped into murky waters here.  I know that the &#8220;cessationist&#8221; versus &#8220;continuationist&#8221; debate rages on, and that both sides claim biblical support for their positions. I&#8217;ve learned that the biblical debate centers on <a class="bibleref" title="1 Corinthians 13:8-12" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+13%3A8-12"><cite class="bibleref" title="1 Corinthians 13:8-12" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283870436', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F46013008-46013012&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F46013008-46013012&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p46013008.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46013008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46013009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For we know in part and we prophesy in part, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46013010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46013011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46013012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Corinthians 13:8-12', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+13%3A8-12');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+13%3A8-12" >1 Corinthians 13:8-12</a></a> and <a class="bibleref" title="Ephesians 2:20" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ephesians+2%3A20"><cite class="bibleref" title="Ephesians 2:20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283843749', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F49002020&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F49002020&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p49002020.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v49002020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Ephesians 2:20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ephesians+2%3A20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ephesians+2%3A20" >Ephesians 2:20</a></a>, and with my limited understanding of exegesis, I tend towards the continuationist side.  I&#8217;m quite aware that I&#8217;m heading to a school that&#8217;s quite firmly entrenched in the strong cessationist perspective.  I&#8217;ll also be facing opposition for my belief on the ordination of women, though that&#8217;s a whole other topic for discussion.  I think that the bottom line is that I&#8217;m a bit more open minded on the intentions and methods that the Lord uses.  While I agree with the bulk of Reformed theology in general, and I subscribe to the principle of <em>Sola Scriptura</em>, I feel that this understanding must also accompany an experiential relationship with the Lord that has captured my heart.</p>
<p>Because I don&#8217;t currently possess any of the miraculous gifts of the Spirit, it might be easy for me to believe that those gifts did indeed pass away at the end of the apostolic age.  After all, when I was baptized as a believer a few years ago, I also then received the Holy Spirit.  I do believe that I received some specific spiritual gifts right then, notably faith and teaching (and maybe others).  I don&#8217;t seem to have received any of the gifts of supernatural power, though.  So, should I conclude that because of my personal experience, I ought to dismiss the possibility of the continuation of the gifts of power entirely?</p>
<p>The implications of such a stance would be huge for me.  First and foremost, I would have to believe that some of my trusted friends who claim to possess some of the miraculous gifts, most notably speaking in tongues, are either delusional or deceptive.  I&#8217;d have a hard time making that conclusion, especially when those friends have devoted their lives to spreading the gospel and the ministry of the church.  They work in Jesus&#8217; name.  They also seem to be the folks that earnestly rely most heavily on prayer and seek the Lord&#8217;s guidance in their daily walks.  Am I to conclude that some of the biggest prayer warriors I know are frauds?  I cannot.</p>
<p>Thus, my search for the power of the Holy Spirit continues.  I&#8217;m curious to learn what some trusted scholars have discovered,  particularly Sam Storms, Wayne Grudem, and Jack Deere.  I plan to seek the counsel of some of those trusted friends and well  as doing my due diligence academically.  I will continue to pray for the Lord to reveal to me His true intentions for the work of the Holy Spirit in my life and how he wishes for me to utilize the gifts he&#8217;s given me.  Finally, I thank the Lord for what appears to be answers to some of the prayers that I&#8217;ve been praying on this matter.  He&#8217;s led me to some wise counsel and he&#8217;s opened my eyes to some real opportunities for growth.  Thank you, Lord, for your faithfulness.</p>
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		<title>A Priceless Moment of Fatherhood</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 02:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I often pray a very specific prayer for my children.  I was already certain that the Lord hears my prayers, and that he answers them.  It&#8217;s just that this particular prayer is more of a long-term prayer of eternal consequence, a prayer for their salvation.  Ultimately, I hope that they get to know the Lord [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often pray a very specific prayer for my children.  I was already certain that the Lord hears my prayers, and that he answers them.  It&#8217;s just that this particular prayer is more of a long-term prayer of eternal consequence, a prayer for their salvation.  Ultimately, I hope that they get to know the Lord Jesus the way that I know him, or better.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" title="Avatar" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71vXsXQGGkL.jpg" alt="Avatar" width="209" height="252" />The glimpses of seeing the Lord at work in the lives of my kids are seemingly few and far between, but tonight I had perhaps the most satisfying moment as a father.  Oddly enough, the moment came tonight after a questionable decision to watch the movie &#8220;Avatar&#8221; with my six-year-old son over the past two evenings before bed.  He seemed to enjoy the the first half of the movie so I agreed to let him watch the second half with me tonight despite my knowing that there would be violence.</p>
<p>*Spoiler alert* Please skip to the next paragraph if you haven&#8217;t seen Avatar and you intend to!  During the final battle scene, when the Na&#8217;vi had finally turned the tides and the forest creatures joined in, my son was thrilled to see the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; get destroyed.  He gleefully shrieked when a pack of giant hammer-headed beasts crushed the mechanized warriors that had decimated the good guys just minutes before.  He absolutely loved seeing the &#8220;dragons&#8221; fling the flying warships into the cliffs.  He really had a great sense of who to root for, particularly against the evil forces.  In the past, my son had often rooted for the bad guys in various movies and shows, but not this time.  Amazingly, this is not the end of my story.</p>
<p>When the movie finished, it was time to head off to bed (an hour late because of the movie).  We laid down on his bed and talked a bit about the movie.  I was interested to hear his favorite parts as well as finding out if any of the violence had scared him or impacted him.  He told me his favorite part, which involved the &#8220;dragon&#8221;, and he said that he wasn&#8217;t scared or sad or anything, and then he got quiet for a minute.  I was about to ask him what the scariest part was when he said &#8220;Daddy, I don&#8217;t think they worshiped the same God we do.&#8221;  He meant the &#8220;good guys&#8221;, that they didn&#8217;t worship our God.  I was floored, so I probed a little deeper.  I said &#8220;You&#8217;re right, buddy (my heart is full at this point)&#8230; there was something/someone missing from the story, wasn&#8217;t there?&#8221;  He said &#8220;Yeah, they didn&#8217;t know Jesus.&#8221;  WOW!  He continued &#8220;They were worshiping, but they were worshiping the wrong thing.  I mean, they prayed and stuff, but they prayed to a tree or something.&#8221;  Then, as if I wasn&#8217;t already fully blown away, he concluded with this nugget of spiritual wisdom.  Mind you, this is ALL unprompted&#8230;  he said &#8220;How can a created (the tree) be THE Creator.  It just doesn&#8217;t make sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>I about fell off the bed.  I told him how right he was, how proud I was, and we immediately prayed, among other things, that the people that made the movie would meet the Jesus that we know and love.  I really think that he was praying with me in his heart and not just listening to his bedtime prayer before zonking out.  Even now, as I write this an hour later, I am still full of thankfulness to the Lord that captured my heart.  I am thankful that he is answering my prayers for my kids.  I trust that my kids will both be believers, and true warriors for the Kingdom of God.</p>
<p>One more thought before I wrap this up.  I&#8217;ve talked to lots of people about Avatar, even though I hadn&#8217;t seen it until yesterday.  I had heard from a source or two that there were bits of bad theology mixed into the movie, mainly pantheism.  So, I was prepared for it when I saw it, and I wasn&#8217;t surprised at all.  Most people I talked to about Avatar, though, made no notice of the theology and just enjoyed the movie.  Mind you, I enjoyed the movie, too.  Anyway, leave it to my six-year-old, as if he were a mature Christian, to solemnly point out that they weren&#8217;t worshiping the right God.  I find that highly ironic and totally amazing.</p>
<p>Nights like tonight are so gratifying, comforting, fulfilling, and all kinds of other words ending in ING.  I am just so happy that the Lord is taking hold of my kids&#8217; hearts and that the time I spend telling them everything I know about the Creator of the universe is actually sinking in.  Wow&#8230; just wow!</p>
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		<title>Is it OK to pray for sports?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll likely be leaving this year, and yet I feel more passionately than ever that I care for the well-being of Cleveland, Ohio.  Still trying to overcome the stigmas of &#8220;The Mistake on the Lake&#8221; and &#8220;Burning River&#8221;, it strikes me that Cleveland is on the brink of renewal.  I don&#8217;t mean economic revival, because, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll likely be leaving this year, and yet I feel more passionately than ever that I care for the well-being of Cleveland, Ohio.  Still trying to overcome the stigmas of &#8220;The Mistake on the Lake&#8221; and &#8220;Burning River&#8221;, it strikes me that Cleveland is on the brink of renewal.  I don&#8217;t mean economic revival, because, quite frankly, I don&#8217;t see that happening here for quite some time.  The renewal I&#8217;m thinking about it the kind that REALLY changes lives, a spiritual renewal.  This renewal has even been prophesied, and it seems like just the kind of thing that God would design for His divine purposes.</p>
<p>Now, in order that this renewal to happen, we have work to do.  We&#8217;ve got to get praying for Cleveland.  Certainly, innumerable people have been praying for Cleveland for decades upon decades, but I think that a more concerted effort of focused prayer for renewal in Cleveland is in order, and on a grand scale.  I&#8217;m thinking of numerous groups of prayer warriors, from numerous churches, praying for Cleveland and its numerous facets&#8230; leaders, residents, employees, visitors, and SPORTS TEAMS???</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" style="margin: 0px 2px;" title="LeBron James" src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_lebron_james.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="240" />Yes, I think we ought to be praying for the Cleveland Cavaliers.  I think we ought to be praying for LeBron James.  LeBron is clearly a person of significant influence, and for the most part, he seems to have his head on straight.  Occasionally you&#8217;ll hear him give thanks to the Lord for his God-given talents.  He keeps his nose clean and stays away from trouble and controversy.  I have a slight problem with the whole &#8220;King&#8221; thing, although I don&#8217;t think he asked for that moniker.  I think we ought to pray for him (and his elbow).  I pray that LeBron will embrace his high-profile circumstance and use it to give glory to God&#8217;s majestic name.</p>
<p>A championship would be such a blessing for Cleveland, although perhaps not in the way you might think.  I would like to see a championship in Cleveland not merely because it makes rooting for Cleveland sports more fun, but rather it&#8217;ll allow us to get over our wallowing in self pity.  Maybe it&#8217;ll even help us to recognize the renewal that&#8217;s unfolding in this city.</p>
<p>The name of a blog I check from time to time summarizes the condition we&#8217;ve become accustomed to in enduring Cleveland sports&#8230; &#8220;<a title="WNFY" href="http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/" target="_blank">Waiting For Next Year</a>&#8220;.  Isn&#8217;t that what we&#8217;re always doing here in Cleveland?  Let&#8217;s get past this incessant waiting for next year and focus on the moment we&#8217;re in.  Let&#8217;s give thanks for the blessings we&#8217;ve been given keep our eyes open for opportunities to glorify God in the now.  Finally, if we want to look to the future, lets consider only the coming of our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ.  And while we have our sights set on the return of the real King, I think it&#8217;d be alright if we ask him to bless the Cavaliers and grant us a championship!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear friends, We’re in desperate need of some help! As most of you know, my family and I are planning a move to Charlotte, North Carolina this summer so that I may continue my seminary adventure. In order for that to happen, we need to sell our house in Seven Hills ASAP. In order for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends,</p>
<p>We’re in desperate need of some help!  As most of you know, my family and I are planning a move to Charlotte, North Carolina this summer so that I may continue my seminary adventure.  In order for that to happen, we need to sell our house in Seven Hills ASAP.  In order for THAT to happen, we need to knock out a list of repairs so that the house is fully marketable.  This is where we need your help.</p>
<p>As you may know, I am woefully inept when it comes to “handiness”.  Mostly, I lack the tools and experience to do anything effectively.  That’s why I’m asking for your help.  The following is a list of needs for our house.  If you have any time and expertise available for any of these tasks, or if you have a capable friend/spouse that’d be willing to help, please let me know if we can arrange a time in the near future to cross it off the list.  Here’s the honey-do list…</p>
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<li>Repair front doorway woodwork</li>
<li>Refinish/replace wood trim leading down the stairs to the basement</li>
<li>Install threshold plate from the hallway to the master bedroom</li>
<li>Power clean and refinish the deck</li>
<li>Tighten/adjust the some of the loose/crooked wooden pieces on the deck</li>
<li>Install light fixture in kitchen hallway and downstairs bathroom</li>
<li>Replace the banister at the bottom of our staircase.  It’s missing a spoke or rung or whatever it’s called and it looks old in general.</li>
<li>Fasten the wooden threshold plates to the floor that lead from the living room to the kitchen</li>
<li>Patch a small hole in the wall in the upstairs bathroom</li>
<li>Replace a small piece of rotten molding in the upstairs bathroom</li>
<li>Replace the water pipes in the garage that burst a year and a half ago because we forgot to cut off the water pressure to that faucet</li>
<li>Reseat upstairs bathroom toilet with a new wax ring and reattach with new screws</li>
<li>Repair/replace bathtub water faucet in upstairs bathroom</li>
<li>Install light cover in upstairs shower</li>
<li>Paint/wallpaper upstairs bathroom</li>
<li>Paint ceiling in master bedroom</li>
</ul>
<p>If you feel that you could help or provide guidance for any of these projects, please let me know.  We’d love to have you over to get a better idea of what we’re talking about here.  Some of this stuff I could possibly do myself with a little time and direction (and tools).  If you’re unable to help us right now, that’s alright.  We ask that you might join us in prayer for the sale of our home and for God to be glorified in the process.</p>
<p>Time is of the essence.  Thanks in advance!</p>
<p>Blessings, Jason</p>
<p>PS: If any of you have any experience with real estate transactions, we could use your advice.  Here are our listings on <a title="Zillow" href="http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4195-E-Pleasant-Valley-Rd-Seven-Hills-OH-44131/33608088_zpid/" target="_blank">Zillow</a> and <a title="Carig's List" href="http://cleveland.craigslist.org/reo/1699715204.html" target="_blank">Craig’s List</a>.  We’re considering retaining the services of a realtor or using a service like <a title="NextHome" href="http://www.nexthome.com" target="_blank">NextHome</a>.  Your thoughts are certainly welcome.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is it!  We are finally placing our home on the market after nearly a year of anticipation.  Here are the essentials in case some miracle sends a potential buyer to this site&#8230; Our beautiful red brick home is for sale!  This home is a unique bungalow design with a large attached garage, a full [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This is it!  We are finally placing our home on the market after nearly a year of anticipation.  Here are the essentials in case some miracle sends a potential buyer to this site&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Our beautiful red brick home is for sale!  This home is a unique  bungalow design with a large attached garage, a full second story,  central air, and a huge yard.  The upstairs features two large bedrooms  (15&#215;15), one small bedroom/nursery, lots of closet and attic space, and a  full bathroom with shower and tub.  The main floor features a large  eat-in kitchen with updated stainless steel appliances and a tile floor,  a large living room (20&#215;12) with hardwood floor and wood burning  fireplace, a carpeted den/playroom (12&#215;12), and a half-bath.  The  basement is finished with tile floor and wood burning fireplace on one  side and a utility/laundry area on the other side.  The house has modern  paint and light fixtures throughout.  The outside features a deck  (20&#215;12), a number of trees, and lots of area for gardening.</p>
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<li>Address: <a style="color: #0000ff; text-align: left&amp;amp;amp;" title="Map" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=4195+E.+Pleasant+Valley+Rd.,+Seven+Hills,+OH,+44131&amp;sll=37.230328,-95.712891&amp;sspn=50.695615,96.855469&amp;num=10&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=4195+E+Pleasant+Valley+Rd,+Seven+Hills,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio+44131&amp;ll=41.413638,-81.66996&amp;spn=0.189502,0.378342&amp;z=12&amp;iwloc=A" target="_blank">4195 E. Pleasant Valley Rd.</a></li>
<li>City: Seven Hills, OH 44131</li>
<li>Style: Brick Bungalow, Built: 1946</li>
<li>3 Bedrooms, 1.5 Baths, ~1617 square feet</li>
<li>Large 0.76 acre property</li>
<li>Schools: Green Valley Elementary, Hillside Middle School, Normandy High  School</li>
<li>See it on <a title="Zillow" href="http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4195-E-Pleasant-Valley-Rd-Seven-Hills-OH-44131/33608088_zpid/" target="_blank">Zillow</a>, <a title="Craig's List" href="http://cleveland.craigslist.org/reo/1699715204.html" target="_blank">Craigslist</a></li>
<li>Price: $167,500</li>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What follows is an e-mail discussion between me and Mike Williamson, a student at the University of Edinburgh.  This dialogue was conducted and edited in fulfillment of a course requirement for my Apologetics class at RTS this past January.  As for Mike, I stumbled upon his blog a couple years ago in an attempt to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="ngg-singlepic ngg-left alignleft" style="margin: 1px 3px;" src="http://jason.piteo.net/wp-content/gallery/images/chat_icon.png" alt="Chat Icon" width="112" height="112" />What follows is an e-mail discussion between me and Mike Williamson, a student at the University of Edinburgh.  This dialogue was conducted and edited in fulfillment of a course requirement for my Apologetics class at RTS this past January.  As for Mike, I stumbled upon his blog a couple years ago in an attempt to inform myself on the perspectives of a secular humanist.  He is a self-proclaimed “agnostic atheist”, and he and I met after trading comments on our blogs.</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Jason:</strong> I’d like to know what you think about the existence of God… if you flat out deny it, then why?</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Mike:</strong> To answer the question fairly briefly, I don&#8217;t believe in God because I don&#8217;t believe that there is enough evidence to support the claim that there is a God.  The burden of proof is firmly in the theist&#8217;s court as the one making the claim, just as someone who claims to have been abducted by aliens would have to provide evidence before I believed them.</p>
<p>I would not generally say that I flat out deny the existence of God because I would change my mind if confronted with good enough evidence.  That makes me an agnostic atheist (just like every other atheist I&#8217;ve ever met).  This means that I don&#8217;t believe there is a God, but I don&#8217;t claim to know for sure.</p>
<p>More specifically with the Christian God, I suppose I would deny outright the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient and omni-benevolent God because of the problem of unnecessary suffering.</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Jason</strong><strong>:</strong> I’d like to challenge you on a couple points you made.  First, you said that you don’t believe that there is enough evidence to support the claim that there is a God.  I contend that you have come to that conclusion because you have already fixed in your mind that God doesn’t exist.  Therefore, when presented with a piece of evidence regarding the existence of God, you will interpret that evidence through your atheist filter while I would interpret it through my Christian filter.  On this, I’m afraid, we’re going to have a hard time finding common ground.</p>
<p>Take, for example, the cosmological argument, with which I’m sure you’re well familiar.  When I examine the scientific findings regarding the expansion of the universe, it leads me to believe that the universe had a “first cause”.  If it’s growing, it had to start from nothing.  In my opinion, the only possible first cause is God.  However, when you’re confronted with the same evidence, you might suggest that our universe is part of a greater “multiverse”, and the tools for creation rest in there.  Of course, I would counter that claim by asking how the multiverse came to be.  Your own “burden of proof” becomes a stumbling block there as well.</p>
<p>My question to you is, don’t you think that if I were to show you some compelling evidence for the existence of God, you would dismiss it with some sort of naturalist response?  From my perspective, there’s an overwhelming abundance of evidence for God.  His signature is all over the universe, at both the cosmic and the microscopic scales.  Scripture says that unbelievers all know this to be true, and yet they suppress this truth (<a class="bibleref" title="Romans 1:19-21" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Romans 1:19-21" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Romans 1:19-21" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Romans 1:19-21" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21"><cite class="bibleref" title="Romans 1:19-21" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283862718', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F45001019-45001021&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F45001019-45001021&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p45001019.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v45001019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v45001020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v45001021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Romans 1:19-21', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A19-21" >Romans 1:19-21</a></a>).  I don’t necessarily want to have a debate over the specifics of each of those “evidences”, particularly because of what I’ve said already.  I think we should start simply by recognizing that we cannot bridge our gap by my providing any evidence and then go from there.</p>
<p>One more statement I’d like to make is that I’m a bit curious about your definitions of perspectives.  You claim to be an “agnostic atheist”, but do you actually spend time investigating from a theist perspective?  For example, do you go to church every so often, just to see if you might discover the truth one day?  If you don’t believe you could ever discover the truth in a church (or a mosque, synagogue, temple), then could you really call yourself an agnostic?</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Mike:</strong> Regarding evidence filters, you&#8217;re claiming that we&#8217;re both biased from opposite perspectives, correct?  The difference is that I apply an equal standard of evidence to every claim depending on how extraordinary it is.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  I do not believe any God claims, among many other types of claims, because they haven&#8217;t reached my standard of evidence.  In contrast, you believe in one type of God but not another, even though there is no more evidence for one than the other, demonstrating that you apply a different standard of evidence to different claims.</p>
<p>I also have no reason to be biased against evidence for God.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if there was a God looking out for us, or if heaven existed, or if I knew that everyone I knew who&#8217;s died isn&#8217;t gone and that I&#8217;ll see them again?  There are many people who I could have much better relationships with if I believed in God; when I left the Church I left behind a lot of friends.  It&#8217;s the same with other claims; wouldn&#8217;t it be great if homeopathy worked, for example?  I remember the exact moment that I left Catholicism.  I was standing before the grotto at Lourdes, crying my eyes out, and I turned to my priest and said &#8220;I think I&#8217;m losing my faith.  I want to believe, but I don&#8217;t think I can.&#8221;  I had an awful lot invested in my belief in God and I would happily go back to that if I was provided with enough evidence.</p>
<p>Specifically regarding the cosmological argument, and I know you don&#8217;t want to focus on specific pieces of evidence (although I don&#8217;t know where else this discussion could go), but I can&#8217;t just leave it unaddressed.  You say that the only possible first cause is God, but that&#8217;s a specific type of argument from ignorance called the “God of the Gaps”.  You can&#8217;t think of any other explanation, so you conclude that it must be God.  That&#8217;s not how you construct an argument.  You can only argue by eliminating other causes when you know all the possible causes.  Instead of God, why not go with the much simpler explanation of the existence of a particle which exists outside of time as the cause of the Big Bang?  Personally, I am perfectly happy to say that when it comes to the origin of the universe, I don&#8217;t know.  The theist, on the other hand, replaces one mystery with another when he says &#8220;God did it&#8221;.  It is a non-explanation, because it says nothing at all about how it happened.  Furthermore, jumping the gun in that way and going with one explanation before enough evidence is in discourages the search for the real answer.</p>
<p>Regarding church, I have gone a few times but not because I thought it might change my mind.  I want evidence, not preaching.  I don&#8217;t really care all that much what the Bible or any other supposedly divine revelation says until I&#8217;m convinced that its authority is real.  That doesn&#8217;t make me less of an agnostic.  It&#8217;s not up to me to investigate every claim that&#8217;s ever been made, and those that haven&#8217;t, before I can call myself an agnostic.  I do, however, frequently engage with theists, mainly Christians but not exclusively.</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Jason:</strong> Again, because of our opposing worldviews, we are not going to get anywhere in our discussion by considering evidence presumably for or against the existence of God.  I only referred to the cosmological argument to make the point that we aren’t likely to see eye to eye on the evidence.   I could start by saying that your theoretical particle outside of time needs a cause, and you could say that God needs a cause, and we’d be back at square one.  Also, I might ask how you define “equal standards”, “extraordinary claims”, and “standard of evidence”, specifically how you derive those definitions and upon what authority to you formulate such claims.  You also say that you have no reason to be biased against evidence for God, but that’s exactly what you’re doing (though admittedly, I am equally as biased in opposition).  As for your claim that there is no more evidence for the Christian God than any other God, I’d be happy to pick apart any other worldview than my own and explain how it falls short of logical explanation.  For the purpose of this discussion, though, I’d prefer to stick to an analysis of your own worldview rather than some other one that you don’t hold to be true anyway.  It could take a rather long time to refute every non-Christian worldview, and that would seem silly since you don’t believe them anyway.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I doubt that either of us will be convinced based on the presumptions of the other.  Rather, we need address our worldviews themselves, since they’re the basis of our interpretation of evidences.  Ultimately, there is no neutral ground to which we can move to evaluate the scenario objectively.  You see, because you deny the existence of God, you must examine evidence using only your own human rationality.  This makes human reason your own highest authority, yet on what basis are you able to trust human reason?  Given a natural, random cause for the existence of the universe (and subsequently beings with the ability to think and reason), why should human thought be trusted as authoritative?  Aren’t our thoughts, then, just accidents caused by various neurons firing in a certain manner at a certain time?</p>
<p>The idea that we can know reason from irrationality, truth from untruth, right from wrong, and good from evil demonstrates that there are some sorts of laws and order to the universe.  For the Christian, this is no problem, because we recognize the evidence that God has revealed to all humans in the form of natural revelation (the world) and special revelation (scripture).  He has made it quite clear for us, and all of the evidence fits quite nicely.  Without the Christian worldview, the ability to even consider evidence and assign value to it becomes rather difficult to explain.  Other worldviews collapse under their own absurdity, often either self-refuting or borrowing from the Christian worldview.  For example, how can one explain rationality itself without assuming that there is an ultimate standard for reason?  How can there be an ultimate standard for reason if we are all here by accident?  Furthermore, why should our reasoning be trusted?  Where else but an absolute personal God can our ability to apply reliable reasoning to the world be attributed?</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Mike:</strong> Ok, I disagree that I&#8217;m biased against the evidence, but I can accept that that kind of evidence is unlikely to come up in a debate like this, so let&#8217;s leave that behind.</p>
<p>By “standard of evidence” I am referring to the type, quality and quantity of evidence for a certain claim.  An equal standard of evidence is one of a similar type, quality, and quantity to another, assuming that the claim is of a similar level of extraordinariness.  By that, I mean that if you told me you went to the library this morning, I&#8217;d take your word for it, that would be enough evidence because it&#8217;s a completely ordinary claim (and also to a certain extent because it doesn&#8217;t matter one way or the other).  If, however, you told me you saw a pink elephant fall from the sky, I&#8217;d have a hard time taking your word for it, because it&#8217;s considerably more extraordinary.  It doesn&#8217;t get much more extraordinary than a God claim; we have no experience of it.  Similar claims in the past have not subsequently been backed up by evidence (unlike the library claim, people say similar things all the time and it turns out they&#8217;re right), and also because it matters a great deal if God exists or not, particularly if I&#8217;m supposed to believe something on his authority.  I don&#8217;t need authority on which to base this standard of evidence.  It is, after all, what I find convincing for my own beliefs.   Generally, it&#8217;s striking a balance between too high a standard of evidence, in which case you would be dismissing things that are true, and too low a standard, in which case you would believe in things that are mutually exclusive.  But it&#8217;s more important to be consistent.</p>
<p>Let’s now discuss reason and truth.   So, do you think that if there were no God there would be no such thing as a fact?  The order of the universe in fact fits very well into the non-theist worldview; if everything is deterministic, then you would expect things to react in a similar way under similar conditions.  Indeed, I&#8217;d expect a universe that works according to the whims of its creator not to act consistently, particularly if we&#8217;re talking about a God who is supposed to intervene.  I&#8217;d also like to quickly point out that not much in the universe is random chance, depending on how you define that.  Evolution certainly isn&#8217;t, so here we have an explanation for our faculties to determine fact from fiction.  It usually benefits our survival to know what&#8217;s out there, how things work, etc.  However, it is far from perfect; an easy example is an optical illusion or some other type of cognitive bias.  Our brains have evolved to spot patterns, even when there isn&#8217;t one, because that&#8217;s beneficial to our survival, even if it is not beneficial in an attempt to know the truth. (On a quick aside, how does this imperfection fit into your worldview?  If, as in your last sentence, you claim that our reliable faculties can only be attributed to an absolute personal God, how do you explain the fact that it isn&#8217;t perfect?)</p>
<p>This imperfection is exactly why we need logic and science, to iron out the imperfections, and to remove human influence as much as possible from the result, so that we are as close as possible to the truth.  I am a little confused about your “ultimate standard of reason”.  There are absolute truths, I either went to the shops yesterday or I didn&#8217;t.  Chemicals either react in a certain way or they don&#8217;t.  Reason (and science) is a human tool to determine truth from non-truth, nothing more.  How can we rely on this? Because it gets results!  Look around you, the computer you&#8217;re using right now is a product of science, designed using a reasonable application of evidence.  No other system of thought has done anything even remotely comparable to just that one machine, and that&#8217;s just the tip of the iceberg.  Are we just going to throw this process away and rely on faith, or some other system of thought?</p>
<p>So, what happens when the scripture doesn&#8217;t line up with the world?  There are plenty of examples; God did not create the world exactly as it is, pi does not equal 3, killing birds and doing some ritual with its blood does not cure disease, there was no census in the year that Joseph supposedly had to return to Bethlehem.  It doesn&#8217;t seem like there&#8217;s much consistency to this ordered worldview.  And that&#8217;s just the factual stuff, there&#8217;s also a whole load of stuff in the Bible that differs with our ability to reason out morality.</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Jason:</strong> First, I want to point out some evidence that clearly demonstrates my point about our worldviews and how our presuppositions affect our interpretation of everything.  Statements like “it doesn&#8217;t get much more extraordinary than a God claim” are indicative of such a bias.  Similarly, your whole paragraph about scripture not lining up with the world was developed with the presupposition that the Bible is not divinely inspired and therefore cannot be authoritative.  Using terms like “factual stuff” is begging the question.  Both of those presuppositions I reject, just as you reject mine.  Since your worldview is defined by your presuppositions, I intend to show you that your worldview doesn’t work.  You see, I can’t imagine an existence without God’s presence, and I don’t find there to be any inconsistencies in the bible.  If you want to have a discussion about biblical authority, we can do that.  I can explain to you how all of your “facts” are based on false presuppositions.</p>
<p>Quickly, I’d like to give you an answer to your “aside” question before we move on to your worldview, only because it’s relevant to the worldview topic.  An imperfect mind is not at all a problem for a Christian, simply because God didn’t create other gods, he created creatures (humans).  Everything in creation is subordinate to him.  Just because God has perfect faculties doesn’t necessitate that humans have perfect faculties.</p>
<p>Now, let’s discuss that worldview of yours.  Here’s the statement upon which your worldview collapses:  “…to remove human influence as much as possible from the result, so that we are as close as possible to the truth”.  You see, you must use your human faculties to determine this truth from untruth.  However, if you suggest that human influence is to be removed so that we may approach absolute truth, then why not discredit your own human reason?   You seem to recognize that the human mind is fallible and not to be trusted, and yet in contradiction you seem to think that the human mind is able to establish absolute standards upon which we may rely.  To your question, we need not throw away logic, reason, or science precisely because God has given us these tools as a way for us to know about him and the world he created.  Our faith simply allows us to understand the source of these tools.</p>
<p>So, is human reason to be trusted or not?  If so, then how do you know that my human reason isn’t more accurate than yours; and how are we to judge when we disagree?  If human reason is not to be trusted, then by what standard are we able to discover absolute truth?  Can some impersonal source like evolution or pantheism tell us anything about what to believe?  You see, evolution doesn’t care about beliefs or truth, only on behaviors and results.  Can’t you conceive of a person that is wrong about a great many things in the world and yet is still able to survive and to reproduce?  False beliefs can lead to survival equally as well as true beliefs.  Natural selection cares only about living and multiplying, not about truth, rationality, logic, morality, or anything of the sort.  I suggest that the very existence of truth, rationality, logic, and morality necessitate a personal absolute (God).</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Mike:</strong> Wait a minute; it was you who said that God has revealed himself through the world and through scripture.  I mentioned a few examples where the two don&#8217;t line up, which poses a problem if they&#8217;re both revelations from God.  There was no presupposition involved on my part (unless you&#8217;re claiming that the Bible doesn&#8217;t claim those things, or that bird-blood rituals do cure disease, or that the Bible has more authority than our observation of the world), I was just pointing out an inconsistency in your viewpoint.  By &#8220;factual stuff&#8221; I meant things that the Bible claims are facts, as opposed to something it says is good, I&#8217;m not presuming that something is a fact.<br />
You&#8217;re posing a false dichotomy when you ask &#8220;is human reason to be trusted or not?&#8221;  As I think I explained clearly in my last response, human faculties are generally to be trusted for evolutionary reasons, but only to a certain extent, which is why we need to use science and reason to remove cognitive bias, or when dealing with things our brains have not evolved to deal with.  For those kinds of truths, we must rely on evidence; and not necessarily just one kind of evidence, we can use various forms of evidence which should corroborate the truth, or at least come closer to it than we would arrive with just human faculties.  Indeed, there are lots of examples of “evidence” for the existence of God that, when subjected to scrutiny, turn out to be nothing more than cognitive bias (things like the power of prayer, speaking in tongues, feeling his presence).  I think it is beyond denial that having evidence for a claim is a better reason for believing it than not having evidence for it.  Sometimes, however, it is cumbersome and unnecessary. That is not an inconsistent position.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;we need not throw away logic, reason, or science precisely because God has given us these tools as a way for us to know about him and the world he created.  Our faith simply allows us to understand the source of these tools.&#8221;  As far as I can tell this is a bold assertion without any evidence to back it up.  How do you know that God gave us these tools?  History shows us that science and logic were invented by humans and perfected by humans over the last few millennia.  God doesn&#8217;t seem to have had much to do with it at all; indeed, science is largely contrary to faith.  Faith brought us witch hunting and blood-letting, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be all that reliable.  Science, on the other hand, gets results.</p>
<hr size="2" /><strong>Jason:</strong> Speaking of the bible, again, you demonstrate that your worldview is dominating your thinking.  Every one of the things you mentioned has a reasonable explanation.  The ritual in <a class="bibleref" title="Leviticus 14" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Leviticus 14" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Leviticus 14" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Leviticus 14" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14"><cite class="bibleref" title="Leviticus 14" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283841951', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F03014001-03014057&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F03014001-03014057&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p03014001.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014001-1&quot;&gt;14:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; spoke to Moses, saying, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;This shall be the law of the leprous person for the day of his cleansing. He shall be brought to the priest, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the priest shall go out of the camp, and the priest shall look. Then, if the case of leprous disease is healed in the leprous person, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the priest shall command them to take for him who is to be cleansed two live clean birds and cedarwood and scarlet yarn and hyssop. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall command them to kill one of the birds in an earthenware vessel over fresh water. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He shall take the live bird with the cedarwood and the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, and dip them and the live bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall sprinkle it seven times on him who is to be cleansed of the leprous disease. Then he shall pronounce him clean and shall let the living bird go into the open field. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he who is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe himself in water, and he shall be clean. And after that he may come into the camp, but live outside his tent seven days. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And on the seventh day he shall shave off all his hair from his head, his beard, and his eyebrows. He shall shave off all his hair, and then he shall wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and he shall be clean.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014010.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;And on the eighth day he shall take two male lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb a year old without blemish, and a grain offering of three tenths of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil, and one log of oil. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest who cleanses him shall set the man who is to be cleansed and these things before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, at the entrance of the tent of meeting. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall take one of the male lambs and offer it for a guilt offering, along with the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall kill the lamb in the place where they kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the place of the sanctuary. For the guilt offering, like the sin offering, belongs to the priest; it is most holy. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The priest shall take some of the blood of the guilt offering, and the priest shall put it on the lobe of the right ear of him who is to be cleansed and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then the priest shall take some of the log of oil and pour it into the palm of his own left hand &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand and sprinkle some oil with his finger seven times before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And some of the oil that remains in his hand the priest shall put on the lobe of the right ear of him who is to be cleansed and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest of the oil that is in the priest&amp;#8217;s hand he shall put on the head of him who is to be cleansed. Then the priest shall make atonement for him before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The priest shall offer the sin offering, to make atonement for him who is to be cleansed from his uncleanness. And afterward he shall kill the burnt offering. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the grain offering on the altar. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him, and he shall be clean.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014021.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;But if he is poor and cannot afford so much, then he shall take one male lamb for a guilt offering to be waved, to make atonement for him, and a tenth of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil for a grain offering, and a log of oil; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;also two turtledoves or two pigeons, whichever he can afford. The one shall be a sin offering and the other a burnt offering. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And on the eighth day he shall bring them for his cleansing to the priest, to the entrance of the tent of meeting, before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall take the lamb of the guilt offering and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall kill the lamb of the guilt offering. And the priest shall take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of him who is to be cleansed, and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and shall sprinkle with his right finger some of the oil that is in his left hand seven times before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014028-1&quot;&gt;28&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall put some of the oil that is in his hand on the lobe of the right ear of him who is to be cleansed and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot, in the place where the blood of the guilt offering was put. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014029-1&quot;&gt;29&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest of the oil that is in the priest&amp;#8217;s hand he shall put on the head of him who is to be cleansed, to make atonement for him before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014030-1&quot;&gt;30&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall offer, of the turtledoves or pigeons, whichever he can afford, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014031-1&quot;&gt;31&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering, along with a grain offering. And the priest shall make atonement before the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; for him who is being cleansed. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014032-1&quot;&gt;32&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This is the law for him in whom is a case of leprous disease, who cannot afford the offerings for his cleansing.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014033.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014033-1&quot;&gt;33&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014034-1&quot;&gt;34&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;When you come into the land of Canaan, which I give you for a possession, and I put a case of leprous disease in a house in the land of your possession, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014035-1&quot;&gt;35&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;then he who owns the house shall come and tell the priest, &amp;#8216;There seems to me to be some case of disease in my house.&amp;#8217; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014036-1&quot;&gt;36&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then the priest shall command that they empty the house before the priest goes to examine the disease, lest all that is in the house be declared unclean. And afterward the priest shall go in to see the house. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014037-1&quot;&gt;37&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall examine the disease. And if the disease is in the walls of the house with greenish or reddish spots, and if it appears to be deeper than the surface, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014038-1&quot;&gt;38&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;then the priest shall go out of the house to the door of the house and shut up the house seven days. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014039-1&quot;&gt;39&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the priest shall come again on the seventh day, and look. If the disease has spread in the walls of the house, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014040-1&quot;&gt;40&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;then the priest shall command that they take out the stones in which is the disease and throw them into an unclean place outside the city. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014041-1&quot;&gt;41&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall have the inside of the house scraped all around, and the plaster that they scrape off they shall pour out in an unclean place outside the city. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014042-1&quot;&gt;42&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then they shall take other stones and put them in the place of those stones, and he shall take other plaster and plaster the house.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014043.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014043-1&quot;&gt;43&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;If the disease breaks out again in the house, after he has taken out the stones and scraped the house and plastered it, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014044-1&quot;&gt;44&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;then the priest shall go and look. And if the disease has spread in the house, it is a persistent leprous disease in the house; it is unclean. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014045-1&quot;&gt;45&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall break down the house, its stones and timber and all the plaster of the house, and he shall carry them out of the city to an unclean place. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014046-1&quot;&gt;46&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Moreover, whoever enters the house while it is shut up shall be unclean until the evening, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014047-1&quot;&gt;47&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and whoever sleeps in the house shall wash his clothes, and whoever eats in the house shall wash his clothes.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014048.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014048-1&quot;&gt;48&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;But if the priest comes and looks, and if the disease has not spread in the house after the house was plastered, then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, for the disease is healed. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014049-1&quot;&gt;49&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And for the cleansing of the house he shall take two small birds, with cedarwood and scarlet yarn and hyssop, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014050-1&quot;&gt;50&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and shall kill one of the birds in an earthenware vessel over fresh water &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014051-1&quot;&gt;51&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and shall take the cedarwood and the hyssop and the scarlet yarn, along with the live bird, and dip them in the blood of the bird that was killed and in the fresh water and sprinkle the house seven times. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014052-1&quot;&gt;52&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Thus he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird and with the fresh water and with the live bird and with the cedarwood and hyssop and scarlet yarn. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014053-1&quot;&gt;53&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he shall let the live bird go out of the city into the open country. So he shall make atonement for the house, and it shall be clean.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p03014054.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014054-1&quot;&gt;54&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This is the law for any case of leprous disease: for an itch, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014055-1&quot;&gt;55&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for leprous disease in a garment or in a house, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014056-1&quot;&gt;56&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and for a swelling or an eruption or a spot, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v03014057-1&quot;&gt;57&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to show when it is unclean and when it is clean. This is the law for leprous disease.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Leviticus 14', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Leviticus+14" >Leviticus 14</a></a> was for the cleansing of a leper so as to reestablish them into the covenant community.  The ritual itself cured nothing, and was more of a symbolic representation of God’s work in caring for His people.  As for the verses in <a class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 7" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7"></a><a class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 7" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7"></a><a class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 7" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7"></a><a class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 7" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7"><cite class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 7" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283842924', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F11007001-11007051&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F11007001-11007051&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p11007001.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007001-1&quot;&gt;7:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Solomon was building his own house thirteen years, and he finished his entire house.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p11007002.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He built the House of the Forest of Lebanon. Its length was a hundred cubits and its breadth fifty cubits and its height thirty cubits, and it was built on four rows of cedar pillars, with cedar beams on the pillars. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And it was covered with cedar above the chambers that were on the forty-five pillars, fifteen in each row. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There were window frames in three rows, and window opposite window in three tiers. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;All the doorways and windows had square frames, and window was opposite window in three tiers.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007006.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he made the Hall of Pillars; its length was fifty cubits, and its breadth thirty cubits. There was a porch in front with pillars, and a canopy in front of them.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007007.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he made the Hall of the Throne where he was to pronounce judgment, even the Hall of Judgment. It was finished with cedar from floor to rafters.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007008.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His own house where he was to dwell, in the other court back of the hall, was of like workmanship. Solomon also made a house like this hall for Pharaoh&amp;#8217;s daughter whom he had taken in marriage.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;All these were made of costly stones, cut according to measure, sawed with saws, back and front, even from the foundation to the coping, and from the outside to the great court. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The foundation was of costly stones, huge stones, stones of eight and ten cubits. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And above were costly stones, cut according to measurement, and cedar. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The great court had three courses of cut stone all around, and a course of cedar beams; so had the inner court of the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; and the vestibule of the house.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007013.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And King Solomon sent and brought Hiram from Tyre. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He was the son of a widow of the tribe of Naphtali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in bronze. And he was full of wisdom, understanding, and skill for making any work in bronze. He came to King Solomon and did all his work.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007015.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He cast two pillars of bronze. Eighteen cubits was the height of one pillar, and a line of twelve cubits measured its circumference. It was hollow, and its thickness was four fingers. The second pillar was the same. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He also made two capitals of cast bronze to set on the tops of the pillars. The height of the one capital was five cubits, and the height of the other capital was five cubits. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There were lattices of checker work with wreaths of chain work for the capitals on the tops of the pillars, a lattice for the one capital and a lattice for the other capital. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Likewise he made pomegranates in two rows around the one latticework to cover the capital that was on the top of the pillar, and he did the same with the other capital. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now the capitals that were on the tops of the pillars in the vestibule were of lily-work, four cubits. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The capitals were on the two pillars and also above the rounded projection which was beside the latticework. There were two hundred pomegranates in two rows all around, and so with the other capital. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He set up the pillars at the vestibule of the temple. He set up the pillar on the south and called its name Jachin, and he set up the pillar on the north and called its name Boaz. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And on the tops of the pillars was lily-work. Thus the work of the pillars was finished.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007023.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then he made the sea of cast metal. It was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Under its brim were gourds, for ten cubits, compassing the sea all around. The gourds were in two rows, cast with it when it was cast. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It stood on twelve oxen, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south, and three facing east. The sea was set on them, and all their rear parts were inward. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Its thickness was a handbreadth, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, like the flower of a lily. It held two thousand baths.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007027.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He also made the ten stands of bronze. Each stand was four cubits long, four cubits wide, and three cubits high. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007028-1&quot;&gt;28&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This was the construction of the stands: they had panels, and the panels were set in the frames, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007029-1&quot;&gt;29&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and on the panels that were set in the frames were lions, oxen, and cherubim. On the frames, both above and below the lions and oxen, there were wreaths of beveled work. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007030-1&quot;&gt;30&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Moreover, each stand had four bronze wheels and axles of bronze, and at the four corners were supports for a basin. The supports were cast with wreaths at the side of each. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007031-1&quot;&gt;31&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Its opening was within a crown that projected upward one cubit. Its opening was round, as a pedestal is made, a cubit and a half deep. At its opening there were carvings, and its panels were square, not round. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007032-1&quot;&gt;32&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the four wheels were underneath the panels. The axles of the wheels were of one piece with the stands, and the height of a wheel was a cubit and a half. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007033-1&quot;&gt;33&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The wheels were made like a chariot wheel; their axles, their rims, their spokes, and their hubs were all cast. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007034-1&quot;&gt;34&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There were four supports at the four corners of each stand. The supports were of one piece with the stands. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007035-1&quot;&gt;35&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And on the top of the stand there was a round band half a cubit high; and on the top of the stand its stays and its panels were of one piece with it. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007036-1&quot;&gt;36&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And on the surfaces of its stays and on its panels, he carved cherubim, lions, and palm trees, according to the space of each, with wreaths all around. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007037-1&quot;&gt;37&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this manner he made the ten stands. All of them were cast alike, of the same measure and the same form.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007038.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007038-1&quot;&gt;38&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he made ten basins of bronze. Each basin held forty baths, each basin measured four cubits, and there was a basin for each of the ten stands. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007039-1&quot;&gt;39&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he set the stands, five on the south side of the house, and five on the north side of the house. And he set the sea at the southeast corner of the house.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007040.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007040-1&quot;&gt;40&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Hiram also made the pots, the shovels, and the basins. So Hiram finished all the work that he did for King Solomon on the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007041-1&quot;&gt;41&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the two pillars, the two bowls of the capitals that were on the tops of the pillars, and the two latticeworks to cover the two bowls of the capitals that were on the tops of the pillars; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007042-1&quot;&gt;42&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the four hundred pomegranates for the two latticeworks, two rows of pomegranates for each latticework, to cover the two bowls of the capitals that were on the pillars; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007043-1&quot;&gt;43&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the ten stands, and the ten basins on the stands; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007044-1&quot;&gt;44&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the one sea, and the twelve oxen underneath the sea.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007045.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007045-1&quot;&gt;45&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now the pots, the shovels, and the basins, all these vessels in the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, which Hiram made for King Solomon, were of burnished bronze. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007046-1&quot;&gt;46&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In the plain of the Jordan the king cast them, in the clay ground between Succoth and Zarethan. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007047-1&quot;&gt;47&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And Solomon left all the vessels unweighed, because there were so many of them; the weight of the bronze was not ascertained.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007048.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007048-1&quot;&gt;48&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So Solomon made all the vessels that were in the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;: the golden altar, the golden table for the bread of the Presence, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007049-1&quot;&gt;49&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the lampstands of pure gold, five on the south side and five on the north, before the inner sanctuary; the flowers, the lamps, and the tongs, of gold; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007050-1&quot;&gt;50&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the cups, snuffers, basins, dishes for incense, and fire pans, of pure gold; and the sockets of gold, for the doors of the innermost part of the house, the Most Holy Place, and for the doors of the nave of the temple.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p11007051.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v11007051-1&quot;&gt;51&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Thus all the work that King Solomon did on the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; was finished. And Solomon brought in the things that David his father had dedicated, the silver, the gold, and the vessels, and stored them in the treasuries of the house of the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Kings 7', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Kings+7" >1 Kings 7</a></a>, notice that all of the measurements are in whole numbers.  You don’t see any fractions at all in these measurements, let alone an exact decimal like pi.  The numbers the verses give us were the closest we could get without using fractions.  Finally, we have the census of Quirinius.  Certainly, there is much controversy about this passage.  Several opinions exist on the significance of <a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"><cite class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283848117', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F42002001-42002002&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F42002001-42002002&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p42002001.06-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v42002001-1&quot;&gt;2:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v42002002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This was the first registration when Quirinius was governor of Syria.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Luke 2:1-2', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2" >Luke 2:1-2</a></a>.  I can only give you my opinion, and I know for a fact that you are unable to prove me wrong.  My opinion is that Jesus was born in or around 6 B.C and that a year or two before, there was in fact a census decreed.  Clearly, Luke saw two distinct censuses (see <a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2"><cite class="bibleref" title="Luke 2:1-2" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283848117', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F42002001-42002002&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F42002001-42002002&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p42002001.06-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v42002001-1&quot;&gt;2:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v42002002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This was the first registration when Quirinius was governor of Syria.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Luke 2:1-2', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Luke+2%3A1-2" >Luke 2:1-2</a></a> and compare to <a class="bibleref" title="Acts 5:37" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Acts 5:37" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Acts 5:37" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37"></a><a class="bibleref" title="Acts 5:37" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37"><cite class="bibleref" title="Acts 5:37" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283855547', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F44005037&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F44005037&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p44005037.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v44005037-1&quot;&gt;37&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After him Judas the Galilean rose up in the days of the census and drew away some of the people after him. He too perished, and all who followed him were scattered.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Acts 5:37', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+5%3A37" >Acts 5:37</a></a>).  Secular history (which I don’t feel compelled to trust, though in this case I have no reason not to) tells us that Quirinius wasn’t “governor” when Jesus was born, but in the original language (Greek), the word can also refer to a ruler or leader.  Quirinius was in fact a military leader in Syria at the time, and could have easily executed a census on behalf of the emperor.  Numerous other opinions exist, although I’m most settled on this one.  Again, despite the efforts of many in the past several hundred years, I find there to be no inconsistencies in the bible, and the bible aligns perfectly well with the revealed world.</p>
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<p>Given more time and flexibility with the length of this paper, I would have likely continued this discussion by shifting the focus of the discussion away from evolution toward the Christianity and the Bible.  Before long, I expect we’d be engaged on the problem of evil and unnecessary suffering, especially since Mike included that issue in his initial response to my inquiry.  It was clear from his responses that Mike requires evidence for the proof of God’s existence, though I’m convinced that he will never be persuaded by an evidential apologetic.  That is precisely why I persisted with the transcendental argument, even though it seemed to be a futile cause.  Ultimately, Mike put up a good front, and only by God’s grace through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit will he be convinced that Christianity is true.</p>
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		<title>Choosing to Cheat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a good little book recently that helped me put some things into perspective.  It didn&#8217;t particularly tell me anything that I didn&#8217;t already know.   Rather, it sort of reinforced what I had already been thinking on the matter.  I appreciate the advice I had gotten to read the book (thanks Dave for letting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" title="Choosing to Cheat" src="http://resources.northpoint.org/store/store/assets/cheat_lg.gif" alt="" width="151" height="191" />I read a good little book recently that helped me put some things into perspective.  It didn&#8217;t particularly tell me anything that I didn&#8217;t already know.   Rather, it sort of reinforced what I had already been thinking on the matter.  I appreciate the advice I had gotten to read the book (thanks Dave for letting me borrow it).</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s this about?  It&#8217;s certainly a provocative title, but it can&#8217;t imply that I intend to cheat on something, right?  Well, the way the book puts it, something or someone is always going to get cheated in our busy lives, and it&#8217;s just a matter of who or what.  For me, the issue is time management.  I have a lot on my plate and not enough time to handle it all.  That means that I have to prioritize and cut things short or cut them out entirely.</p>
<p>I have been giving this a lot of thought recently, and I&#8217;ve decided on a few particular principles that have become non-negotiable.  First, I need some time for personal devotions.  Simply put, I need to hang out with God.  That means prayer, scripture, time for reflection, and possibly some other edifying books.  Firmly in second place needs to be my family.  Dinner time is essential.  Bed time with the kids super quality time.  Relaxing time with my wife at night is wonderful.  After this, things tend to get foggier.</p>
<p>I thought it&#8217;d be fun for me to digitize my current &#8220;to do&#8221; list, partially to help me sort it out, partially for future reference, and partially for fun.  Here goes, in no particular order&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Prepare my house to hit the market in a month</li>
<li>Complete dialogue paper for Apologetics course</li>
<li>Study for and take final exam for Apologetics course</li>
<li>Hire a new employee for my company (essentially my replacement &#8211; it&#8217;s complicated)</li>
<li>Train said employee</li>
<li>Grow my business and maintain what we&#8217;ve got</li>
<li>Find a new church home in Charlotte</li>
<li>Apply for seminary scholarship</li>
<li>Look for other sources of financial assistance in anticipation of our &#8220;seminary adventure&#8221;</li>
<li>Come &#8220;under care&#8221; of my session and my presbytery</li>
<li>Continue developing the Men&#8217;s Discipleship program at church</li>
<li>Disciple as many people as possible before we leave, especially the relationships that are already developing</li>
<li>Have as much quality time as possible with my extended family before we leave</li>
<li>Write a sermon to be preached hopefully this summer before we leave</li>
<li>Write research paper for Church History II course</li>
<li>Study for and take final exam for Church History II course</li>
<li>Read as much of my book backlog as possible</li>
<li>Lose some weight and get in shape</li>
<li>Maintain my low stress level through all of the above</li>
</ul>
<p>As I examine this list, it strikes me as absurd!  Seriously, how am I going to get all of this done in the next few months?  I think I&#8217;m going to have to cheat.  The question is where do I cheat&#8230; I expect the Holy Spirit will guide me to the answer, and it&#8217;ll be fun to see how He helps me work it out.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you know me very well, you&#8217;ve probably heard that I just got back from the first on-campus course of my seminary experience.  Let me just say, it was fantastic!  I met a bunch of wonderful, new people for starters.  For an extrovert like me, that is particularly exciting.  I was also quite intrigued by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know me very well, you&#8217;ve probably heard that I just got back from the first on-campus course of my seminary experience.  Let me just say, it was fantastic!  I met a bunch of wonderful, new people for starters.  For an extrovert like me, that is particularly exciting.  I was also quite intrigued by the classroom material.  Top that off with my meetings with professors and time outside of class discussing ministry and theology with other students, and it was one heck of  an experience.  The icing on the cake was the weather in Charlotte, where it was in the 60&#8242;s for most of the week (while being in the 30&#8242;s in Cleveland).</p>
<p><img class="ngg-singlepic ngg-right alignright" src="http://jason.piteo.net/wp-content/gallery/images/thinker.jpg" alt="thinker" width="269" height="358" />The topic for my class was &#8220;Apologetics&#8221;, which may be defined as a reasoned defense of the faith.  The apostle Peter made a case for apologetics when he said to &#8220;always be prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and respect&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Peter 3:15" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Peter+3%3A15"><cite class="bibleref" title="1 Peter 3:15" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1283856434', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F60003015&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F60003015&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p60003015.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v60003015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Peter 3:15', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Peter+3%3A15');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Peter+3%3A15" >1 Peter 3:15</a></a>).</p>
<p>All of us Christians have had to defend the faith at one time or another.  This would include defending against or trying to persuade a non-believer of the hope that is in you (the gospel).  It could also address any doubts that we face as believers.  Thus, apologetics is not just for theologians that want to &#8220;argue&#8221; with atheists, but it&#8217;s an integral part of evangelism on par with preaching.  Also, I should  make it clear that apologetics does not involve &#8220;apologizing&#8221;, as if we&#8217;re sorry for our Christian beliefs.  Quite the contrary!</p>
<p>There are essentially two components to my grade in the apologetics course.  The first, of course, is an exam&#8230; no surprise there.  The other major component is a &#8220;dialogue paper&#8221; in which I&#8217;ll have to present a real or fictitious interaction with a skeptic (non-believers or skeptical believers are equally good).  For this reason, I invite any of you that have questions, concerns, or doubts about the Christian God to share them here as comments on my blog.  I&#8217;d be more than happy to answer your questions, and it might just help me out for my course grade!</p>
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